Sunday, March 31, 2013

Is Talk Fusion a scam



   The answer to the question is a big YES.. the structure Talk Fusion carries out is known as Pyramid Scheme... Of course, the company and its customers who are part of this scheme will say : "NO.. You are absolutely wrong.. We are Multi-Level Marketing (MLM) Company and we sell products like video conferencing tools etc." However, you should keep in mind that some MLM companies are Pyramid schemes.. More information about this structure is in the link here( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-level_marketing)... They try to sell you their products but you have to pay a hefty price to join it, and later you have to find other people who will join your tree and they pay the same price and here things change,,,, if you create such kind of tree and make money pulling other people to the system and make money from that not from products you use then this is a Pyramid scheme and that is what Talk Fusion does... You stop attracting people and then you don't make any money in the future.. If the company was selling its products and making money from that let's say charging customers monthly or yearly, why did they create such kind of system where you have to attract people?!.. Evidently, the business Talk Fusion was established on was not to sell their products, it was to run a Pyramid scheme.. Products play here a huge role here, though.. It is to cover their Pyramid schemes operations so they can "officially and legally" bind with laws and stay as MLM company and we know that if you run a Pyramid or Ponzi scheme , you are an illegal company and your operations can be terminated permanently by the government...
  Many people will disagree with me because they are those who are in the higher ranks of Pyramid so they have earned actually more than they put system.. So you will say what is wrong with that i can do the same thing ... The thing is you can but not definitely the system will fall apart one day and it always does. the reason is number of people on Earth is not infinite.. when people stop coming, it will destroy itself from inside.. and if you are late to join you will not make as much as those who make on top of you.. That is an exact model of a Pyramid scheme..
   I have been offered many times by people to join such MLM companies and the last time i was offered was Talk Fusion.. when i entered the room, two members who i thought first time was employees of Talk Fusion (they were actually just random people who were members) sat with me around the table and started to talk about firstly Talk Fusion products for an half hour.. I thought they were kind of recruiting me as an affiliate to distribute the product and promote it( before this event i did know nothing about Talk Fusion), and their system really deserved my attention. However, it was later when all my thoughts about the company changed 180 degree when they started to tell me how i join, how i attract people and make money etc. Because i had a familiarity with a scheme they showed me on the board.. Then it seemed to me whatever they told me in the beginning of the meeting about their products were all just cover-up.. Everything lied on the last 20 minutes of talk about their scheme...
  Furthermore, what they showed me in  he beginning about their products, was not that cool after i thought about it.. They tell, you have the chance of sending people a video mail but in reality it is not a video mail... Nobody can send a video mail to another person because email companies filter the video email and send it to spam folder.. So, what Talk Fusion does , when you click on a video it directs you to their servers so, you watch the video in another website not in your email box. Of course, that is what everybody can do.. It is not a breakthrough innovation, it is just a trick...
   I have not joined the Talk Fusion despite everybody on the internet demonstrates it as a great company and product.. Of course, that is what i would be doing if i joined because i have to make my money back attracting people.. I did research before joining and I came to the conclusion that it is a scam..
  I am writing this article to people who are not part of Talk Fusion and consider to join or not to join.. I advise each of you to do your own research , read articles about schemes from Wikipedia or other sources but never ask from people who are part of it because probably, they will always say this is a great company and you can make money.. Just do your own research in many ways, before investing and trust your guts ...

 P.S.This article is open for a discussion only for open - minded people not for those who will do everything to promote the company's scheme writing nasty comments...

13 comments:

  1. People never learn. It spreads like a plague. I've received at least 11 calls from people around the world asking me about TF and sadly i have a school mate who've joined TF. He keeps on telling me that it is a great chance. Well let us be honest - it is a scheme, but scheme are happening all around the world in small communes in France for example. Desperate times, people make desperate decisions. As i was saying i totally agree on all the points that author had written,but you still can earn some money out of that, they have recently started and if you are ready to take that decision,well, its your choice.

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  2. What do real businessmen say about MLMs Robert Kiyosaki says It is Rich Dad's The Business School For People Who Like Helping People It doesn't matter if you already involved in a Network Marketing company, or if you may be considering whether or not you want to venture into one. In this book Robert explains that building a network marketing business is 1. a revolutionary way to achieve wealth 2. makes it possible for anyone to acquire great wealth and 3. is open to anyone who has drive, determination and perseverance.
    When Donald Trump was asked recently what he would do if he had it to do all over again, his matter-of-fact, one-line reply was: "I would get into network marketing."
    Warren Buffett owns a half a dozen MLM companies so you can listen to poor people tell you its impossible to get rich or you can listen to rich people tell you a way to make it happen for the average person its your choice

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  3. Well put, Mr. Musayev!

    Once you know the basic principles of pyramid scams it is quite easy to look behind the mask.
    The best presentation will not cover the fraudulent schemes that companies like Talkfusion try to establish. Another bubble, waiting to burst. Still, there are enough stupid people to feed the straw fire.

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  4. It is a sad fact of the internet that incorrect and uneducated opinions can be aired online by idiots like Farid, Seyran and Bastian without and fear of prosecution. However I have forwarded this to the CEO of Talk Fusion for him to make his own decisions on the libellous content of this blog.

    Fortunately people like Daniel are prepared to take the time to correct these ridiculous postings.

    There is a big difference between illegal Pyramid schemes and legitimate MLM companies. Unfortunately like the misinformed above, people neither know the difference nor take the time to find out.

    If a product is good enough to be recommended to others, why shouldn’t you be paid for the introduction? If a company has a product that will move by word of mouth and they then choose the MLM model to take it to the end user, they save on advertising costs, marketing, staff, transport etc. and pass these savings on to their re-sellers and distributors who all have their own business.

    I have run many traditional businesses and also been involved in MLM for over 23 years, using my MLM business as a second income stream. With 23 years’ experience I fully understand what is legal and what is not and would never be involved or associated with an illegal business.

    Running a construction company 6 years ago I came across video email as a marketing tool and soon increased my conversion rate of inquiry to sale by 22%, simply because of the wow factor the video emails created, many of the recipients went on to have their own video email accounts.

    Farid’s explanation of video email and MLM is wrong, incorrect, harmful and misleading to those of us building successful MLM businesses through our hard work and effort.

    Many traditional businesses go under every week, it is a sign of our time and a person’s MLM business is no different.

    To be successful in MLM, when you have found the right company and products, you need to work hard, be part of a successful team, learn your trade, have total belief and be focused on your own personal goals, so idiotic ranting’s like those above don’t distract from the job in hand.

    I have heard all this rubbish for years, usually from losers who failed to build an MLM business of their own and always finding something or someone to blame other than themselves, the only difference now is they can post to the world on the internet.

    If you’re in MLM and want to rid the world of these idiots, spend the time to reply to these blogs with the correct information and get these low lives to crawl back under the stones they come from.

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    1. http://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/talkfusion.com
      lol

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  5. David, I certainly couldn't have put it any better myself. These uninformed people should stop trying to jeopardise hard working people's businesses just because they couldn't cut it themselves. Get a job or a hobby, but seriously get a life and stop trying to ruin that of others!

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  6. Thanks Farid. I came across your blog after being approached by someone from the TF network. This guy would definitely deserve my joining just because he was able to keep me online for so long without explicitly giving me the arguments I was asking for to reject the business. The discourse started to fall apart when this person demonstrated his ignorance of basic marketing concepts - dangerous position for someone in the digital marketing business. The final threat of "never leaving my current financial situation" was the proof that the business is legally-but-not-ethically clean (they try to make you feel guilty of not accepting their trash).

    To their defense, MLM works for some (unfortunately a minority) under some circumstances. With the right network, you can get decent commissions: this means that you act as a team manager - or, better said, manage a team of team managers (which is the way to get a wide base with lots of paying customers). Funnily enough, these companies focus on having you manage teams, not actually selling the service: why would anyone in his head start selling products when you can earn so much more managing teams? So, who does sell the products? I still don't have the answer.

    Now, when they promise you a life-long fortune with just an investment of just a couple of months, you need to know how the network operates and decide for yourself whether you want to buy in or not. If it were so magical, why would so many poor people stay without a job when it's so easy to join the network and make a fortune? Are people who buy in really more clever than the others? I have my own opinion on that... They sell you that you are part of an elite and it may indeed work out if you join at the right time... but what is your real value in the business? Why do you deserve to receive from other's work? Personally, I prefer to earn a lower pay check but know what my value is.

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  7. I dn't know if it's a Pyramid scheme but I just don't get it as a product. Video email? Er, Skype anyone?

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  8. Have you seen this? Minh Ho and Julie Campagna have sued Talk Fusion and Bob Reina in State Court in Las Vegas, Nevada => http://masstrafficleads.com/minh-ho-julie-campagna-sued-talk-fusion-bob-reina-state-court-las-vegas-nevada/

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  9. A pyramid scheme is when you don't get something for what you put in. TalkFusion's online products are available to it's Associates for business and personal use for as long as we are members. Even if I never sold a thing, I love the products and am paying much less for web meetings, face to face chat, video emails, and video newsletters with lead capture. You guys are wrong. I understand Minh and Julie broke some serious rules and were politely dismissed from the company after having made millions. The real pyramid scheme is working for someone else for 40 hrs a week for 40 years and only getting 40% of your pay when you leave.

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  10. A pyramid scheme is when you don't get something for what you put in. TalkFusion's online products are available to it's Associates for business and personal use for as long as we are members. Even if I never sold a thing, I love the products and am paying much less for web meetings, face to face chat, video emails, and video newsletters with lead capture. You guys are wrong. I understand Minh and Julie broke some serious rules and were politely dismissed from the company after having made millions. The real pyramid scheme is working for someone else for 40 hrs a week for 40 years and only getting 40% of your pay when you leave.

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  11. If you stop doing anything it will all collapse. A corporation is a pyramid also. you have a CEO / owner who is trying to make a profit, they employ people at a lower level and tell them what their worth, if you stop producing the company fails. In network marketing you can make as much as you want with a good product and comp plan. If you stop producing you fail. The government is the biggest Pyramid scheme.

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